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Therefore, below is the summary of this week’s debate (31 January 2012).
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Social Work Praxis Debate Summary for 31 January 2012
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SWSCmedia SWSCmedia
@ProfSocialWork You’re welcome & thank you for your great work… 
@SWSCmedia #SWSCmedia
mgoat73 Martin Webber
@ProfSocialWork @SWSCmedia @ProfJScourfield All good points, well made! #swscmedia
NickBerbiers Nick Berbiers
@jaxrafferty @lillieputian @ProfSocialWork Yes, precisely right, the definition of stat placement is certainly not just LA #swscmedia
twsw012 twsw
thanks for really interesting debate – have been downloading research whilst tweeting! #swscmedia
NickBerbiers Nick Berbiers
@lillieputian @ProfSocialWork @jaxrafferty You can only do the best you can do. I did not wish 2 cause you any anxiety at all #swscmedia
ProfSocialWork From The Gut
@SWSCmedia Thanks #SWSCmedia a great debate really got a lot from it tonight. *Applause*
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jaxrafferty Jackie Rafferty
Just want to say respect to all fellow #swscmedia in the frontline. Keep on keeping on. Now time to eat
Theresauno Tee Green
@SWSCmedia Where did time go?! Thanks 2 all those involved for organising such gr8 opportunity for debates ~Claudia, Nick, Prof! #swscmedia
ProfSocialWork From The Gut
@444blackcat oooh sounds good want to watch #swscmedia
NickBerbiers Nick Berbiers
@ProfSocialWork I think you are exactly right. If any one thing needs to be jettisoned rapidly, it is the climate of fear. #swscmedia
444blackcat bc
#swscmedia distracted at the end by BBC2 my child the rioter v good
ProfSocialWork From The Gut
I think that happens in my office & I think it can be intimidating esp as the we are so task oriented & out of the loop w theory #swscmedia
njsmyth Nancy J. Smyth
great debate everyone….thanks @ProfSocialWork and@SWSCmedia #SWSCmedia
Pynda0 Pinda
@ProfSocialWork research is an overwhelming learning experience.#swscmedia
ProfSocialWork From The Gut
I think this fear lead to the disconnect between practice & theory & #socialworkers then wanting to discount it cause of fear #swscmedia
SWSCmedia SWSCmedia
Thank U Everyone for ur great participation & ideas. The debate is now closed. We look forward to seeing U next week.@SWSCmedia #swscmedia
444blackcat bc
#swscmedia think its useful in MH they want us all to b AMHPs which requires pre qualification should be case for all fields
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njsmyth Nancy J. Smyth
@theresauno @mgoat73 Or fundraising #swscmedia
ProfSocialWork From The Gut
Practitioners are also scared of research & theory and sometimes feel a bit disconnected from it & at times intimated by it #swscmedia>>>
jaxrafferty Jackie Rafferty
Continue to build networks/alliances such as #swscmedia and get better at standing up for ourselves
NickBerbiers Nick Berbiers
@SWSCmedia Supervision, supervision, supervison! And supervision…..and supervision. #swscmedia
Theresauno Tee Green
@mgoat73 @njsmyth Sounds gr8 bt research needs #funding ! Back 2 theories! 
#swscmedia
ProfJScourfield Jonathan Scourfield
#SWSCmedia way forward may be to aim for all masters profession. Encouragement from last govt but cuts are now a challenge. Unrealistic?
Ermintrude2 Ermintrude
@Theresauno I have a copy on my desk #swscmedia
mgoat73 Martin Webber
@SWSCmedia Try to find some thinking and reflective time amidst the hubbub of practice. (Easier said than done of course…) #swscmedia
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Theresauno Tee Green
@Ermintrude2 Yeah – I think it is also useful for qualified S/W 2 keep as reference – easy readin/explanations #swscmedia :)
jaxrafferty Jackie Rafferty
PQ / CPD is going to be down to the individual #swscmedia
njsmyth Nancy J. Smyth
@SWSCmedia Never give up. Never surrender #SWSCmedia
mgoat73 Martin Webber
@ProfJScourfield @SWSCmedia Agreed. There is little funding or support for PQ upgrades to Masters (though we still offer it!) #swscmedia
NickBerbiers Nick Berbiers
@lillieputian @ProfSocialWork @jaxrafferty Can but say I believe it should be mandatory – at least 1 vol sector/1 stat placement #swscmedia
SWSCmedia SWSCmedia
Any Last words of advise… for bridging the gap between theory & practice? @SWSCmedia #swscmedia
ProfJScourfield Jonathan Scourfield
@ProfSocialWork I agree re culture. It is also genuinely hard for employers to fund training when cuts are so deep #SWSCmedia
lillieputian lillieputian
@Theresauno Thank you for that #swscmedia
njsmyth Nancy J. Smyth
@mgoat73 Oh good…glad YOU are..being a dean keeps my research time limited…hate that part of job #SWSCmedia
Pynda0 Pinda
There are plenty of training on Reseach/ theories. Library’s offer them university’s. #swscmedia
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Ermintrude2 Ermintrude
@Theresauno That’s a great book. I recommend it to my students and have the practice teacher version myself. They all love it!#swscmedia
addicted2choco Sarah Clarke
@jaxrafferty @ProfSocialWork I will definately look at that, sometimes I lose sight of these important parts of SW #swscmedia
mgoat73 Martin Webber
@njsmyth Aha! That’s the important question to answer. Too little research has been done on this, but I’m up for the challenge! #swscmedia
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NickBerbiers Nick Berbiers
@SWSCmedia @ProfJScourfield @mgoat73 The #socialworkpraxis has to become seamless. A real challenge but definitely possible #swscmedia
jaxrafferty Jackie Rafferty
6. Provide opportunities for continuing professional development, as well as access to research and practice guidance.#swscmedia
Theresauno Tee Green
Theory and Practice: A Straight Forward Guide for Social Work Students Maclean and Harrison (ISBN: 978-1-903575-73-4)#swscmedia
ProfSocialWork From The Gut
@SWSCmedia @ProfJScourfield @mgoat73 4. LA culture where no time given to theory & research 5. Managers fear of research & theory #swscmedia
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lillieputian lillieputian
@ProfSocialWork @NickBerbiers @jaxrafferty I have stated my concerns no. of times, but get told not to worry…but I do #swscmedia
njsmyth Nancy J. Smyth
Yes-maybe certificates RT @Pynda0: I think moving forward, encourage mentees to educate themselves on SW Reseach/theories #SWSCmedia
jaxrafferty Jackie Rafferty
Another ref coming up – Employer’s Standards -local.gov.uk/web/10161/soci… tho only voluntary #swscmedia
addicted2choco Sarah Clarke
@SWSCmedia I think in the work place, being a practice educator helps #swscmedia
ProfSocialWork From The Gut
@SWSCmedia @ProfJScourfield @mgoat73 1. Historical problems of SW being young profession. 2. SW attitude 2wards research & theory #swscmedia
anniecoops Anne Cooper
@mgoat73 @SWSCmedia #swscmedia dont get me wrong we still not perfect but better – we still need more research culture
mgoat73 Martin Webber
@ProfJScourfield Yes. Agreed. I guess we hae to be optimistic for the future in this regard? #swscmedia
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SWSCmedia SWSCmedia
5 minutes left, can you tell us what should be the way forward? & how we can improve this situation? @SWSCmedia #SWSCmedia
lillieputian lillieputian
@NickBerbiers @jaxrafferty @ProfSocialWork worries me, can I work effectively as NQSW, never worked with a SW or done stat p’ment #swscmedia
444blackcat bc
#swscmedia we r still been encouraged with our CPD n getting funding for courses should be the same everywhere
mgoat73 Martin Webber
@ProfSocialWork Yes, but I wonder what effect higher fees are having on applications as there is a decline in mature applicants #swscmedia
jaxrafferty Jackie Rafferty
Am really sorry to hear that Sarah – point employer to Employer’s standards @addicted2choco @ProfSocialWork #swscmedia
Pynda0 Pinda
I think moving forward we should encourage mentees to educate themselves on SW Reseach/theories #swscmedia
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ProfSocialWork From The Gut
@addicted2choco @jaxrafferty exactly professional development is a foreign word in #socialwork #swscmedia
njsmyth Nancy J. Smyth
Do research showing value of incorporating research/theory in education–tie to better client outcomes #SWSCmedia
jaxrafferty Jackie Rafferty
That is my worry that employers only responsible for assessing AYSE (HEI involvement optional) @addicted2choco@ProfSocialWork #swscmedia
njsmyth Nancy J. Smyth
@ProfSocialWork Me too….scary trend #SWSCmedia
ProfSocialWork From The Gut
@NickBerbiers @lillieputian @jaxrafferty really shameful that it has happened they are robbing u of your education #swscmedia
SWSCmedia SWSCmedia
@ProfJScourfield @mgoat73 Excellent point. But why do you think that is the case? & what is or should be the way forward? #SWSCmedia
addicted2choco Sarah Clarke
@ProfSocialWork @jaxrafferty It is! My development as a practitioner is being held back and so vital to improve practice #swscmedia
gotaspareticket Julian Shinn
Ha ha… sorry can’t concentrate on debate when #bhafc are playing #cpfc! #swscmedia #localderby #priorities
NickBerbiers Nick Berbiers
@lillieputian @jaxrafferty @ProfSocialWork I know, and yet for CQSW in was mandatory, you had to do one – rightly I think #swscmedia
ProfSocialWork From The Gut
@njsmyth really de-professionalsing our profession. Makes me upset & what about SU what kind of service? #swscmedia
SWSCmedia SWSCmedia
We have another 7 minutes in the debate. Would you dedicate that for telling us what should be the way forward? @SWSCmedia #SWSCmedia
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ProfSocialWork From The Gut
@njsmyth yes this is a big worry here also but more in adult #socialwork where they are hiring unqualifed to do the work of SW #swscmedia
ProfJScourfield Jonathan Scourfield
@mgoat73 #SWSCmedia I guess lack of research culture is also just a feature of the historically low educational base of SW c.p. other profs
ProfSocialWork From The Gut
@addicted2choco @jaxrafferty *shakes head* yes to get to do your PQ is a battle so not surprised (sad really) #swscmedia
jaxrafferty Jackie Rafferty
#SWRB guidance is there will have to be placement with statutory work involved & #socialwork qualified assessor #swscmedia
NickBerbiers Nick Berbiers
@SWSCmedia I certainly don’t want to live in a world where there is some homogeneous profession called societal support officer. #swscmedia
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njsmyth Nancy J. Smyth
@ProfSocialWork If other professionals retrain as SW should be ok. Here they are being allowed to be hired in place of SWers #SWSCMedia
ProfSocialWork From The Gut
@anniecoops @mgoat73 @SWSCmedia competition (I think) in the#socialwork field in terms of #socialwork uni places?? #swscmedia
SWSCmedia SWSCmedia
@anniecoops @mgoat73 Are these dichotomies in practice not de-facto deprofessionalisation aggravated by econometrics? #swscmedia
jaxrafferty Jackie Rafferty
“@Jamestaylor2: @SWSCmedia what’s role of college of social work in theory/practice… #swscmedia” Need TCoSW members to push for this
njsmyth Nancy J. Smyth
Sorry…having Twitter client problems #SWSCMedia
ProfSocialWork From The Gut
@anniecoops @mgoat73 @SWSCmedia that will have on theory & research and it’s application. As such a move creates more #swscmedia >>
njsmyth Nancy J. Smyth
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444blackcat bc
@secretsw #swscmedia yes its part of the toolbox not everything but can be v useful
ProfSocialWork From The Gut
@anniecoops @mgoat73 @SWSCmedia is offering incentives to other professionals to retrain as #socialworkers & wonder the impact #swscmedia >>
addicted2choco Sarah Clarke
@ProfSocialWork @jaxrafferty I really hope so, I have been denied a request to have regular time to catch up with new research #swscmedia
jaxrafferty Jackie Rafferty
.@SWSCmedia: Professional Interchangeability” driven by economics & costs at expense of services? #swscmedia Yes & integrated service ideas
ProfSocialWork From The Gut
@anniecoops @mgoat73 @SWSCmedia interesting as I think SW is trying to take the same approach thinking of how gov. #swscmedia >>
NickBerbiers Nick Berbiers
@Theresauno @SWSCmedia It’s in constant flux, and constant evolution: one step forwards two back, etc. Get there, we will! #swscmedia
Jamestaylor2 James Taylor
@SWSCmedia what’s role of college of social work in theory/practice… #swscmedia
secretsw secret social worker
#swscmedia research has its place and can be useful but in the end it’s about people and their individual situation
444blackcat bc
@addicted2choco #swscmedia agreed n think it does often without SW knowing it but reduce bureaucracy ?
SWSCmedia SWSCmedia
Do U think the “Professional Interchangeability” idea is driven by economics & cost reduction at the expense of services? #swscmedia
jaxrafferty Jackie Rafferty
Assessed Year in Supported Employment been developed by SfC CWDC so do not expect research informed but has to be mapped with PCF #swscmedia
anniecoops Anne Cooper
@mgoat73 @SWSCmedia #swscmedia More move towards graduate workforce I think. Evolution ive seen over 20 years (gulp!)
twsw012 twsw
the first time you sit down in supervision you should be asked ‘what theory/research are you applying’ that would set the tone #swscmedia
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Theresauno Tee Green
@NickBerbiers @SWSCmedia Better late than never ay Nick?! #swscmedia
ProfSocialWork From The Gut
@jaxrafferty do you think that the new structure will help SW become more research minded? #swscmedia
secretsw secret social worker
#SWSCmedia in many ways the professionalisation of social work has been its ruin. It is now more related to numbers than people.
njsmyth Nancy J. Smyth
@ProfJScourfield I agree completely…lots of implicit theory. We need to help ppl learn how to make it explicit #SWSCMedia
addicted2choco Sarah Clarke
@444blackcat Theory/reflection should underpin everyday, maybe this will lead to less mistakes being made and reduce bureaucracy #swscmedia
ProfSocialWork From The Gut
Helping NQSW from the beginning to consolidate their knowledge with specialised learning sets #swscmedia & time for thinking. Good step.
NickBerbiers Nick Berbiers
@jaxrafferty @ProfSocialWork Oh, I know! I mean problematic when ppl apply to stat sector having not done even 1 stat placement #swscmedia
444blackcat bc
@ProfSocialWork #swscmedia Yes but what about us old gits
jaxrafferty Jackie Rafferty
Sorry to harp on new career structure in PCF may help with recognition of Experienced Social Worker/ Advanced Practitioner roles #swscmedia
Theresauno Tee Green
RT @twsw012 the 1st time U sit down in supervision you should b asked ‘what theory/research r U applying’ that would set the tone #swscmedia
mgoat73 Martin Webber
@anniecoops @SWSCmedia Yes, that’s true. You’re probably doing better than SWers. Is that because of your proximity to medicine? #swscmedia
ProfJScourfield Jonathan Scourfield
By ‘implicit’ I mean SWers have lots of assumptions about social problems and their role which can be traced back to theories. #SWSCmedia
njsmyth Nancy J. Smyth
RT @NickBerbiers: @SWSCmedia I think we are being re-professionalised because we are now getting our praxis together! #SWSCMedia
mgoat73 Martin Webber
@ProfSocialWork Absolutely. Its open to everyone. I have one service user and one CAMHS SW taking it at present. #swscmedia
ProfSocialWork From The Gut
@NickBerbiers @jaxrafferty yes good placement and good practice assessors so important #swscmedia
Pynda0 Pinda
sometimes I think the profession gets a bad rep and other times I think not everyone(outsiders) sees value in involving a SW #swscmedia
SWSCmedia SWSCmedia
Do U think “interchangeable professionals” are actually a jack-of-all trade approach w/c will further deprofessionalise practice? #SWSCmedia
NickBerbiers Nick Berbiers
@SWSCmedia I think we are being re-professionalised because we are now getting our praxis together! #swscmedia
ProfJScourfield Jonathan Scourfield
Am v late sorry. There’s lots of theory in routine SW practice – mostly IMPLICIT. But v little evidence. Reasons are complicated #SWSCMedia
jaxrafferty Jackie Rafferty
Complex work can be found in non-Stat agencies, many doing legally statutory work @NickBerbiers @ProfSocialWork #swscmedia
njsmyth Nancy J. Smyth
IMHO Reflection & staff development need to be “sold” to mgmt as investments to reduce turnover (& therefore costs) #SWSCMedia
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anntieup Annie
As an MSW student…the emphasis on research is there but some professors emph more than others. Few students like the classes. #swscmedia
444blackcat bc
@addicted2choco #swscmedia agreed but reliant on individuals when it should be built into everyday practice
Zeyneb_Ibrahim Zeyneb Ibrahim
#SWSCMedia i recommend Trevithick for critical reflection/reflexive practice
NickBerbiers Nick Berbiers
@ProfSocialWork @jaxrafferty My pov the placements ppl do makes HUGE difference. How can ppl graduate without stat placement? #swscmedia
swfield UB SSW Field
Theresauno Tee Green
@njsmyth @UBSSW Totally agree – have said b4 that O.U ‘Research wiv children n y.p’ course is 9mths alone. #swscmedia
ProfSocialWork From The Gut
@mgoat73 had a quick look – looks great can FCS #socialworkersalso do this e-learning course? #swscmedia
njsmyth Nancy J. Smyth
@jaxrafferty Agree completely Jackie…this is the only way to go…hope it’s not too late to do it #SWSCMedia
anniecoops Anne Cooper
@mgoat73 @SWSCmedia #swscmedia Sorry to gatecrash! – we do better than we used to! We r increasingly evidence based carers as nurses
SWSCmedia SWSCmedia
Do you believe that #soscialwork & certain other professions are being deprofessionalised because of the theory-practice divide? #swscmedia
444blackcat bc
#swscmedia use of theory/research in practice should be linked to funding then bosses would find time for it imho
jaxrafferty Jackie Rafferty
Many qualified at Master’s level but prior to 2004 could also qualify at Diploma level – employers tend not to differentiate #swscmedia
ProfSocialWork From The Gut
@jaxrafferty do you think that the situation has improved with the UK adopting a degree instead of diploma #swscmedia
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ProfSocialWork From The Gut
@444blackcat reflecting and time for reflecting is also very important#swscmedia Agree >> but very little of this in practice.
swfield UB SSW Field
and in US RT @ProfSocialWork: @swfield @njsmyth and I think the same would be for many UK #socialworkers in my area of practice #swscmedia
njsmyth Nancy J. Smyth
Didn’t know that RT @ProfSocialWork: @swfield @njsmyth also in the UK only recently has SW become a degree programme #swscmedia #SWSCMedia
jaxrafferty Jackie Rafferty
IMHO need to assert theory, research informed profession of #socialwork more urgent than ever #swscmedia Yet it still feels like a long haul
ProfSocialWork From The Gut
@swfield @njsmyth and I think the same would be for many UK #socialworkers in my area of practice #swscmedia
njsmyth Nancy J. Smyth
We (@UBSSW) have had more success making research year long course w/same prof, adding a project, & putting it in 1st yr of MSW.. #SWSCMedia
444blackcat bc
#swscmedia for me the main issue is time limits ability to reflect n apply theory
ProfSocialWork From The Gut
@swfield @njsmyth is not encouraged. this combined with the CP culture means I am struggling up against a mountain #swscmedia
swfield UB SSW Field
And so anyone can do it RT @ProfSocialWork: @swfield @njsmyth #swscmedia #swscmedia
ProfSocialWork From The Gut
@swfield @njsmyth the thought of something like that scares her & then creates this culture where theory and research talk #swscmedia >>
NickBerbiers Nick Berbiers
Reactive, humanistic practice not ideal (in my view) – often happens in CP, but needn’t. Managers should ensure it does not #swscmedia
mgoat73 Martin Webber
@SWSCmedia Yes, but little different from other professions such as OT and nursing #swscmedia
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ProfSocialWork From The Gut
@swfield @njsmyth so for example my manager has a 2 year diploma in #socialwork and never did a research project etc #swscmedia >>>
jaxrafferty Jackie Rafferty
Old chestnut of nurse can give injections but the #socialworkercan’t. Yet nurse can undertake social work roles! #swscmedia
mgoat73 Martin Webber
@CllrMc @Ermintrude2 More info can be found at bit.ly/z59vqN tho link to online prospectus is down. DM me if you want more #swscmedia
ProfSocialWork From The Gut
@swfield @njsmyth also in the UK only recently has SW become a degree programme #swscmedia >>>
Theresauno Tee Green
Agree re; commitment 2 learnin bt S/Ws already learn an awful lot in short space of time n critical analyses is skill in itself #swscmedia
ProfSocialWork From The Gut
@swfield @njsmyth a fear of research and theory as most ppl identify #socialwork with being a doing profession #swscmedia >>>
njsmyth Nancy J. Smyth
@jaxrafferty yes, this trend is underway in the U.S. Many different professions competing w/SW #SWSCMedia
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Oscarbsw Thabo Oscar Mafa
@Docsstaff i agree #theory is not well applied or rather difficult to understand #socialwork>> #swscmedia
njsmyth Nancy J. Smyth
@garethwall RTed your comment because you didn’t have hashtag (#SWSCmedia)
SWSCmedia SWSCmedia
Is the problem of theory & practice divide a distorted notion of practice? & practice cultural problem in #socialwork?@SWSCmedia #swscmedia
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jaxrafferty Jackie Rafferty
Saw a worrying line in SfC bulletin re aim of having ‘interchangeable professionals’ Anyone can do assessment, care management! #swscmedia
njsmyth Nancy J. Smyth
USA accrediting body requires research in BSW education & MSW education. And we still struggle w/topic w/students #SWSCMedia
mgoat73 Martin Webber
@jaxrafferty @SWSCmedia Thanks for the reminder! So curricula should change then … #swscmedia
swfield UB SSW Field
agreed @njsmyth it is a culture that needs to be fostered and supported #swscmedia
NickBerbiers Nick Berbiers
@ProfSocialWork @SWSCmedia Well, indeed, and that too! Neither is good for us or families #swscmedia
mgoat73 Martin Webber
@Theresauno @SWSCmedia Not that I’m aware of, but something like it may exist. Can anyone help? #swscmedia
ProfSocialWork From The Gut
@SWSCmedia Sometimes this does happen at least that what I found in my PQ training #swscmedia
SWSCmedia SWSCmedia
@jaxrafferty @mgoat73 Excellent point. But, is the problem a distorted notion of practice? & a cultural problem? @SWSCmedia #swscmedia
njsmyth Nancy J. Smyth
RT @garethwall: @njsmyth totally agree. It needs to be embedded in the workplace– the time to think is essential to improve #SWSCMedia
jaxrafferty Jackie Rafferty
Just for reference – interactive PCF atcollegeofsocialwork.org/pcf.aspx - may be of interest to non English #socialwork peeps too #swscmedia
SWSCmedia SWSCmedia
@mgoat73 We saw that & our compliment… Have posted it on LinkedIn. Is the question then cultural? #swscmedia
ProfSocialWork From The Gut
@twsw012 agree commitment to learning & responsibly for learning#swscmedia but some ppl find that difficult in all professions not just SW
Oscarbsw Thabo Oscar Mafa
@NickBerbiers i agree with you #socialwork #swscmedia we must all take responsibility
mgoat73 Martin Webber
@SWSCmedia It’s not possible to separate it out and blame one group. I think we all need to take responsibility for it. #swscmedia
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SWSCmedia SWSCmedia
@mgoat73 Important point then is the experiential orientation of #socialwork overshadowing the importance of theory+research? #swscmedia
njsmyth Nancy J. Smyth
Hi Treva…@LovEternal glad you could make it! #SWSCMedia
Theresauno Tee Green
@mgoat73 @SWSCmedia cont’d ..journal – Praxisluc.edu/socialwork/abo… #swscmedia
jaxrafferty Jackie Rafferty
Research literacy is in the new English Professional Capabilities Framework @mgoat73 @SWSCmedia We fought to get it in there #swscmedia
Theresauno Tee Green
@mgoat73 @SWSCmedia Agreed! Do we have anything like Loyola University of Chicago, school of social work who have student run… #swscmedia
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NickBerbiers Nick Berbiers
@ProfSocialWork @SWSCmedia There is an argument that we ended up with govt compliance because we were so praxis poor #swscmedia
twsw012 twsw
Lazy -you have to be committed to learning – SW degrees are only the index page of what we need to know #swscmedia
ProfSocialWork From The Gut
@SWSCmedia it is not unusual to come into the office and have children needing immediate foster carers etc. #swscmedia
jaxrafferty Jackie Rafferty
Where is our version of globalwelfare.net ? #swscmedia
Zeyneb_Ibrahim Zeyneb Ibrahim
#SWSCMedia im a yr2 sw student-are you saying research is more credible than theory/models of practice?
Pynda0 Pinda
@swfield helps with time mgmt #swscmedia
NickBerbiers Nick Berbiers
@SWSCmedia We must all take responsilibty. #swscmedia
ProfSocialWork From The Gut
@SWSCmedia like we are the relationship police or social police because we just have to react and react to stuff #swscmedia
jaxrafferty Jackie Rafferty
I agree re need for comparative social work – there is much work around comparative social policy, we need the same @Theresauno #swscmedia
ProfSocialWork From The Gut
@SWSCmedia to #socialwork and #socialwork thinking always in practice we are always managing a crisis #swscmedia & sometimes feels >>>
Oscarbsw Thabo Oscar Mafa
@SWSCmedia i think it’s because theory is difficult when coming to applying it practically #swscmedia
ProfSocialWork From The Gut
@SWSCmedia The biggest problem with #socialwork is the compliance culture and the reactionary and task centred approach #swscmedia >>>
NickBerbiers Nick Berbiers
@mgoat73 @SWSCmedia That’s a really imoprtant point, Martin. There is a real praxis gap there. #swscmedia
mgoat73 Martin Webber
@SWSCmedia … it is a problem when it comes to professional identity and defining our own future - bit.ly/xAcRPN #swscmedia
SWSCmedia SWSCmedia
Why have #socialwork & its practitioners distanced themeselves so much from theory & research? @SWSCmedia #swscmedia
mgoat73 Martin Webber
@SWSCmedia Research literacy is not taught as a basic requirement of SW training; we don’t have a strong research culture … #swscmedia
twsw012 twsw
Lazy -you have to be committed to learning – SW degrees are only the index page of what we need to know @ProfSocialWork@SWSCmedia
ProfSocialWork From The Gut
@njsmyth solicitors seem the most worried when they see theory. They like theory but from ‘experts’ not SW #swscmedia@SWSCmedia
mgoat73 Martin Webber
@Theresauno @SWSCmedia No – and that’s the problem. No time is provided for this kind of professional development #swscmedia
njsmyth Nancy J. Smyth
@SWSCmedia I will refer to theory in the assessment section of court rpt, but will still refer back to the facts to anchor it #SWSCMedia
1flower89 Faye Flower
@SWSCmedia you will understand what theory n research has been applied?
1flower89 Faye Flower
@SWSCmedia what! Social workers apply theory and research without realising? I’m a SW student, and that’s the idea I have. Reflecting bk
njsmyth Nancy J. Smyth
@SWSCmedia you can include theory if you differentiate it from facts…it’s just not encouraged… #SWSCMedia
ProfSocialWork From The Gut
@444blackcat @SWSCmedia what’s OP team thanks
ProfSocialWork From The Gut
@SWSCmedia also think that it helps one to have an open mind & not get stuck in lazy thinking #swscmedia
SWSCmedia SWSCmedia
@mgoat73 Why do you think that is the case and does that not pose a significant problem? @SWSCmedia #swscmedia
444blackcat bc
@SWSCmedia #swscmedia think theory more used than research but depends a lot on team worked in OP team pace too fast care in out to review
ProfSocialWork From The Gut
@SWSCmedia helps you to have a deeper understanding of the family & also identify potential risk factors. #swscmedia
SWSCmedia SWSCmedia
@njsmyth We understand. But is that not blind-sighting ourselves?@SWSCmedia #SWSCmedia
thatsokthen l smith
@SWSCmedia If true, will be due to caseload pressures and no reflective time/supervision. But theory/research often ‘there’ surely?
ScottDuffy Scott Duffy
@ProfSueWhite @SWSCmedia I am finding my PQ training very unfulfilling as are many of my colleagues…
addicted2choco Sarah Clarke
@SWSCmedia I find the biggest issue for me is finding the time and space to do this, definately not easy.
ProfSocialWork From The Gut
@SWSCmedia I agree with that, I think that it helps with our reasoning and analysis & understanding the complexities of case #swscmedia
Theresauno Tee Green
@mgoat73 @SWSCmedia Do u believe they have time 2 review n critically assess research and have research bakgrounds 2 enable etc? #swscmedia
ScottDuffy Scott Duffy
@ProfSueWhite @SWSCmedia Agreed, however in multidisciplinary teams our specialist knowledge is compromised… This needs recognising…IMO
lavinialady Orpheus
@SWSCmedia in the hope of creating a learning culture within a team I feel its vital to share research and reports with each other, whenever
twsw012 twsw
@SWSCmedia yes, but i have to bear in mind that it is intended to be read by the carers – so language i use is important
ProfSocialWork From The Gut
@njsmyth @SWSCmedia I think CP work is the same all about the facts in court arena. #swscmedia would like to know what others think.
thatsokthen l smith
@444blackcat @swscmedia Yes, havin students SO important to give PE/PT time to learn too. Helps me to critically reflect. What do I believe?
mgoat73 Martin Webber
@SWSCmedia Judging by our students (all experienced SWs), not much research goes into SW reports – it is not part of our culture #swscmedia
Oscarbsw Thabo Oscar Mafa
@swscmedia, @nqobilentekade won’t be joining us tonight as she has to attend a workshop #SWSCmedia
njsmyth Nancy J. Smyth
@SWSCmedia Our judicial system isn’t big on theory…likes facts.#SWSCMedia
ProfSocialWork From The Gut
@SWSCmedia to #socialwork and #socialwork thinking always in practice we are always managing a crisis #swscmedia & sometimes feels >>>
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swfield UB SSW Field
@Pynda0 sounds like a helpful tool #swscmedia
ProfSocialWork From The Gut
@SWSCmedia The biggest problem with #socialwork is the compliance culture and the reactionary and task centred approach #swscmedia >>>
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Theresauno Tee Green
@jaxrafferty Country of origin often results in researchers havin diff priorities re; research interest etc-need comparative S/W#swscmedia
SWSCmedia SWSCmedia
Is gap btwn research+theory vis-a-vis practice due to practitioners? their managers? academia? researchers? bad practice culture? #SWSCmedia
Pynda0 Pinda
I use templates to ensure documentation addresses all issues #swscmedia saves time having a template
NickBerbiers Nick Berbiers
@mgoat73 @SWSCmedia That’s a really imoprtant point, Martin. There is a real praxis gap there. #swscmedia
ProfSocialWork From The Gut
@jaxrafferty please send the link #swscmedia very interesting and helpful.
swfield UB SSW Field
@jaxrafferty thanks for sharing #swscmedia
jaxrafferty Jackie Rafferty
Old one still up but out of date – takes a case study approach to improve accessibility and relevance resmind.swap.ac.uk/index.htm #swscmedia
njsmyth Nancy J. Smyth
RT @ProfSocialWork: @NickBerbiers Yes the compliance culture should not be forgotten it kills theory and thoughts #SWSCMedia
swfield UB SSW Field
@jaxrafferty sounds interesting #swscmedia
mgoat73 Martin Webber
@SWSCmedia … it is a problem when it comes to professional identity and defining our own future - bit.ly/xAcRPN #swscmedia
SWSCmedia SWSCmedia
Why have #socialwork & its practitioners distanced themeselves so much from theory & research? @SWSCmedia #swscmedia
ProfSocialWork From The Gut
@NickBerbiers Yes the compliance culture should not be forgotten it kills theory and thoughts #swscmedia
jaxrafferty Jackie Rafferty
I developed an online Research Mindedness module some years ago that is being updated by SCIE – be available soon which may help #swscmedia
njsmyth Nancy J. Smyth
If we don’t take time to reflect on our practice we lose our effectiveness. Taking time for reflection is critical #SWSCMedia
njsmyth Nancy J. Smyth
@mgoat73 How many research courses do your students take? #SWSCMedia
njsmyth Nancy J. Smyth
@ProfSocialWork yes…I think courts prefer facts…want opinions clearly identified #SWSCMedia
ProfSocialWork From The Gut
@njsmyth solicitors seem the most worried when they see theory. They like theory but from ‘experts’ not SW #swscmedia@SWSCmedia
mgoat73 Martin Webber
@SWSCmedia Research literacy is not taught as a basic requirement of SW training; we don’t have a strong research culture … #swscmedia
444blackcat bc
#swscmedia not often i praise NHS Trust but think having Multi Dis formulation meetings has promoted use of theory in practice for our team
ProfSocialWork From The Gut
@njsmyth I find that this happens CP cases also do you think it has to do with the court arena & the mistrust of theory there? #swscmedia
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Oscarbsw Thabo Oscar Mafa
i’m experiencing a bad connection here #swscmedia
mgoat73 Martin Webber
@Theresauno @SWSCmedia No – and that’s the problem. No time is provided for this kind of professional development #swscmedia
NickBerbiers Nick Berbiers
Let’s us not ignore the reality that the complaince culture in effect supressed theory / evidence led practice #swscmedia
jaxrafferty Jackie Rafferty
Perhaps false dichotomy between theory and research – theory building usually has some relationship to research IMHO #swscmedia
njsmyth Nancy J. Smyth
@SWSCmedia I will refer to theory in the assessment section of court rpt, but will still refer back to the facts to anchor it #SWSCMedia
swfield UB SSW Field
that is the challenge @jaxrafferty #swscmedia
njsmyth Nancy J. Smyth
@SWSCmedia you can include theory if you differentiate it from facts…it’s just not encouraged… #SWSCMedia
Theresauno Tee Green
@CllrMc That’s gud bt IMO there is a lot more 2 fully understanding/critically assessin research than covered on S/W courses #swscmedia
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jaxrafferty Jackie Rafferty
Researchers need to be better at interpreting & presenting findings working alongside in a way that is relevant to practitioners #swscmedia
ProfSocialWork From The Gut
@SWSCmedia also think that it helps one to have an open mind & not get stuck in lazy thinking #swscmedia
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@mgoat73 Why do you think that is the case and does that not pose a significant problem? @SWSCmedia #swscmedia
444blackcat bc
@SWSCmedia #swscmedia think theory more used than research but depends a lot on team worked in OP team pace too fast care in out to review
ProfSocialWork From The Gut
@SWSCmedia helps you to have a deeper understanding of the family & also identify potential risk factors. #swscmedia
SWSCmedia SWSCmedia
@njsmyth We understand. But is that not blind-sighting ourselves?@SWSCmedia #SWSCmedia
ProfSocialWork From The Gut
@SWSCmedia I agree with that, I think that it helps with our reasoning and analysis & understanding the complexities of case #swscmedia
twsw012 twsw
I saw a major breakthrough in a family when i explained childrens behaviour using theory at a family group conference #swscmedia
NickBerbiers Nick Berbiers
Seen more theory in court reports etc over recent years, but not great deal of research evidence in, perhaps because limited #swscmedia
Pynda0 Pinda
@ProfSocialWork geriatrics #swscmedia
Theresauno Tee Green
@mgoat73 @SWSCmedia Do u believe they have time 2 review n critically assess research and have research bakgrounds 2 enable etc? #swscmedia
swfield UB SSW Field
SW is an art and a science…you need to know the science and have room to consider other factors. #swscmedia
ProfSocialWork From The Gut
@Pynda0 what is your practice area #swscmedia
SWSCmedia SWSCmedia
Research indicates #socialworkers tend not to apply theory+research in their everyday practice. Why do U think that is the case? #SWSCmedia
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ProfSocialWork From The Gut
Hello @Oscarbsw hope you are feeling better. We’ve missed u welcome back #swscmedia cc@swscmedia @nqobilentekade
CllrMc CllrSarahMcStravick
@Theresauno Hence proud to have BSC, lot of scientific theory in intervention and evaluation @HuddersfieldUni #SWSCmedia
ProfSocialWork From The Gut
@njsmyth @SWSCmedia I think CP work is the same all about the facts in court arena. #swscmedia would like to know what others think.
Pynda0 Pinda
I use research for proposals and presentations not for assessments or documentation #swscmedia
njsmyth Nancy J. Smyth
We try to teach our students to challenge authority if needed, but to do it well. And so they challenge us too #SWSCMedia
SWSCmedia SWSCmedia
@twsw012 Are you allowed to incorporate theories in your reports & assessments? #swscmedia
Theresauno Tee Green
@ProfSocialWork @gotaspareticket Yes I think is need for more reflexive practices and questioning, how,what,where etc n comparin #swscmedia
Ermintrude2 Ermintrude
@ProfSocialWork In my experience, more caselaw/research than theory. That’s my experience alone. #swscmedia
mgoat73 Martin Webber
@SWSCmedia Judging by our students (all experienced SWs), not much research goes into SW reports – it is not part of our culture #swscmedia
ProfSocialWork From The Gut
@njsmyth really interesting as US SWers are really confident in this area & also have confidence to challenge managers #swscmedia
jaxrafferty Jackie Rafferty
Difficult to see how which theory applies given the uniqueness of individuals/families? So different from medical model. #swscmedia
Oscarbsw Thabo Oscar Mafa
@swscmedia, @nqobilentekade won’t be joining us tonight as she has to attend a workshop #SWSCmedia
njsmyth Nancy J. Smyth
@SWSCmedia Our judicial system isn’t big on theory…likes facts.#SWSCMedia
444blackcat bc
#swscmedia agreed court tends to want evidence explanations of reasons decisions rather than research/theory
Theresauno Tee Green
But S/W need scientific know-how 2 b able 2 understand/interpret complex realities of S/Us lives n consider comparative S/W #swscmedia
njsmyth Nancy J. Smyth
I have worked with some local agencies to build in a monthly journal article discussion group for staff– it’s worked well #SWSCMedia
twsw012 twsw
reading the textbooks and manuals whilst writing up assessments helps me link theory to practice #swscmedia
SWSCmedia SWSCmedia
@njsmyth Why do you think that is the case? #SWSCmedia
NickBerbiers Nick Berbiers
From my perspective (snr management essentially) the theory-practice separation has been significantly improving in recent years #swscmedia
ProfSocialWork From The Gut
@Ermintrude2 FCS is also broad but I could give a yes or no answer #swscmedia to court reports.
jaxrafferty Jackie Rafferty
Bad connection? @toscarbsw? #swscmedia
CllrMc CllrSarahMcStravick
@jaxrafferty #SWSCmedia, think we can learn so much from international SWorkers, my oldmanager from US, led to interesting theory debates!
444blackcat bc
#swscmedia not enough possibly lack of time at work so left to doing your own reading in own time
ProfSocialWork From The Gut
@SWSCmedia I find that I am expected to take my lead from my manager #swscmedia I wonder if it is the same for others #swscmedia
Oscarbsw Thabo Oscar Mafa
experiencing difficulties tweeting #SWSCmedia
njsmyth Nancy J. Smyth
Not encouraged to include theory in court reports that I’ve done for adults.. #SWSCMedia
ProfSocialWork From The Gut
@Theresauno @gotaspareticket Agree in parts. It depends some things you need to actively think about & apply like research. #swscmedia
Ermintrude2 Ermintrude
@ProfSocialWork ’adult services’ too broad. As is ‘court reports’. Research more than theory for BIA. #swscmedia
SWSCmedia SWSCmedia
How much research do you incorporate in your practice? & reports? assessments etc.? @SWSCmedia #SWSCmedia
Theresauno Tee Green
@gotaspareticket @SWSCmedia Hi Julian I added #swscmedia to yr tweet to get it included in debate.
jaxrafferty Jackie Rafferty
I thought @claudiamegele piece in @comcare was a great insight in to how research and theory building got separated from practice #swscmedia
ProfSocialWork From The Gut
@njsmyth @Ermintrude2 With adult services are you expected to have theory in court reports? #swscmedia
Theresauno Tee Green
RT @gotaspareticket #SWSCmedia Yes fully agree… it is normally underpinning what we do even when we’re not consciously ‘applying theory’
njsmyth Nancy J. Smyth
@Theresauno I agree completely…we must tie research, theory, & policy to practice…otherwise it doesn’t “stick” #SWSCMedia
jaxrafferty Jackie Rafferty
We are getting so international at #swscmedia we need to be mindful of not being too Anglocentric – different learning, practices, contexts
njsmyth Nancy J. Smyth
And good research builds and tests theory… #SWSCMedia
swfield UB SSW Field
@ProfSocialWork Thanks! Good to be here. #swscmedia
ajacob200 Ashley J
@SWSCmedia late but present!! #swscmedia
Andrew_S_Hatton Andrew S Hatton
Pls RT #swscmedia Check out #Prisoner‘s Wives on #BBC1TV@9PM Tonight and see how #probation & #Social_Work are shownbbc.co.uk/programmes/b01…
Theresauno Tee Green
Requirements = ‘Ensure that teachin of theoretical knowledge,skills n values is based on application to practice’ (DoH 2002) #swscmedia
swfield UB SSW Field
@njsmyth Thanks…important discussion for sw education! #swscmedia
ProfSocialWork From The Gut
@njsmyth Hi @swfield Laura a big warm welcome @UBSSW #swscmedia
njsmyth Nancy J. Smyth
@Ermintrude2 We encourage ppl to do that too…but you need both research and theory.. #SWSCMedia
CllrMc CllrSarahMcStravick
@SWSCmedia have put research into assessments, gives evidence base to practice, I think #SWSCmedia
Pynda0 Pinda
I think it’s difficult to stick to one theory bc clients are always changing. Also the situation “forces” you to adjust #swscmedia
ProfSocialWork From The Gut
@njsmyth at least this is what I have seen when working with American #socialworkers #swscmedia maybe it has to do with training/confidence?
njsmyth Nancy J. Smyth
@ProfSocialWork I wish we would do more of it in the U.S., #SWSCMedia
Ermintrude2 Ermintrude
@SWSCmedia we are encouraged to refer to research #socialwork#swscmedia
Jamestaylor2 James Taylor
Follow @SWSCmedia for #socialwork debate. Place for theory in sw practice #swscmedia
njsmyth Nancy J. Smyth
Hi Laura ( @swfield )…nice to see you here…(Laura directs our field placement program in Buffalo @UBSSW) #SWSCMedia
ProfSocialWork From The Gut
@njsmyth I know some might disagree but I think that American SW are more confident with theory & applying it in practice #swscmedia
Pynda0 Pinda
@jaxrafferty @pinda @cllrsarahmcstravick good to see everyone as well ! #swscmedia
ProfSocialWork From The Gut
@njsmyth I think that sounds amazing actually #swscmedia testing process I think we could do more of that in the UK.
ScottDuffy Scott Duffy
@SWSCmedia Social Work education needs to specialise to improve theory to practice… Even PQ continues to be generic… #swscmedia
SWSCmedia SWSCmedia
Everyone seems to appreciates & apply theories in everyday #socialwork practice. Do U incorporate research in your work/reports? #swscmedia
swfield UB SSW Field
@njsmyth @444blackcat agreed about hypothesis testing…need to teach students that process…reflection…critical thinking.#swscmedia
CllrMc CllrSarahMcStravick
@ProfSocialWork iy depends on which theoretical concepts managers use, discuss diff theories, invite diff practice issues #SWSCmedia
jaxrafferty Jackie Rafferty
Hello @pinda and good to see @cllrsarahMcStravick and all the regulars of course #swscmedia
njsmyth Nancy J. Smyth
I teach that practice itself is hypothesis testing process (and link to theory)…but I don’t think I am the rule this way #SWSCMedia
ProfSocialWork From The Gut
I think that #socialwork managers can sometimes be scared of theory and it’s application assessments or in supervision #swscmedia
Pynda0 Pinda
Hello everyone in #swscmedia !! Cant wait to talk about sw praxis !!
444blackcat bc
@swfield #swscmedia agreed application of theory has progressed through time perhaps depends on field n team
CllrMc CllrSarahMcStravick
@SWSCmedia yes theoretical concepts essential, in every aspect of care cycle, assess, act, review, evaluate. #SWSCmedia
njsmyth Nancy J. Smyth
In supervision/case conferences ask..:why do you think problem is happening? R there other explanations?” & then link to theory #SWSCMedia
ProfSocialWork From The Gut
@swfield @444blackcat I think maybe this can be due to training as some SWers are just worlds apart in terms of theory #swscmedia
jaxrafferty Jackie Rafferty
Was puzzled not one mention of the ever present ‘attachment theory’ on the #protectingourchildren programme last night #swscmedia
ProfSocialWork From The Gut
@swfield @444blackcat I think that some practitioners seem to be more orientated towards theory and others less so. #swscmedia>>>
Ermintrude2 Ermintrude
@444blackcat I guess recovery models too ? #swscmedia
Theresauno Tee Green
@SWSCmedia Surely S/Ws use theories 2 inform their practices every day – often wivout realising – assessin/identifyin changes etc #swscmedia
swfield UB SSW Field
Schools may negate the role practitioners can play in generating theory. #swscmedia
444blackcat bc
#swscmedia task centered n self directed a lot but a fairly eclectic mix throughout assessment care planing therapeutic work n reviews
NickBerbiers Nick Berbiers
@SWSCmedia Here, here! We salute you @jaxrafferty #swscmedia
ProfSocialWork From The Gut
@SWSCmedia can feel so task orientated that it feels that you need to ‘do’ and ‘fix’ instead of think & incorporate theory #swscmedia
swfield UB SSW Field
agreed @444blackcat but would qualify that more advanced practitioners do so. New sw must make a conscious effort.#swscmedia
jaxrafferty Jackie Rafferty
Nancy shows the difference between the therapeutic work she is engaged in and the process driven role in the UK vis a vis theory #swscmedia
ProfSocialWork From The Gut
@SWSCmedia really interesting question about room as sometimes it feels as though it is not allowed in practice #swscmedia cause practice >>
SWSCmedia SWSCmedia
Do you apply any #socialwork theories in your everyday practice, assessments, reports, etc.? #swscmedia
ProfSocialWork From The Gut
Theory is an essential part of #socialwork practice the problem is that theory is not always understood well or applied well #swscmedia
444blackcat bc
#swscmedia yes still room it becomes ingrained often only when reflecting do u realise that u were using theory all along
ProfSocialWork From The Gut
@jaxrafferty agree men are good at cooking #swscmedia@SWSCmedia
lillieputian lillieputian
@SWSCmedia Hello everybody #swscmedia
ProfSocialWork From The Gut
@emakepeace or go to @swscmedia twitter stream and follow that for questions #swscmedia
swfield UB SSW Field
agreed @444blackcat but would qualify that more advanced practitioners do so. New sw must make a conscious effort.#swscmedia
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jaxrafferty Jackie Rafferty
Nancy shows the difference between the therapeutic work she is engaged in and the process driven role in the UK vis a vis theory #swscmedia
ProfSocialWork From The Gut
@SWSCmedia really interesting question about room as sometimes it feels as though it is not allowed in practice #swscmedia cause practice >>
SWSCmedia SWSCmedia
So, in today’s debate our 1st question is: Is there any room for theory in social work practice? & if yes how, when and where? #swscmedia
SWSCmedia SWSCmedia
But, this has also distanced #socialwork from academia, theory and research. #swscmedia
SWSCmedia SWSCmedia
This closeness to users of service & practical nature of expected #socialwork outcomes has generated a practice orientation #swscmedia
SWSCmediaSWSCmedia
#SocialWork & #socialcare professionals are involved in the lives & everyday lived “reality” of their users of service #SWSCmedia
SWSCmedia SWSCmedia
Good evening everyone and welcome to @SWSCmedia debate on #SocialWork Praxis… Hope you’re ready to begin… #swscmedia
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